Welcome Archimendes.
You call them, they tell you to go f#@k yourself in the kindest "christian" way possible. Well not literally, but the result is the same...
hi all,.
what sort of responses do people actually get when you write to brooklyn hq to query subjects like their quote mining and other dubious uses of sources.
i am currently having a bit of a 'discussion' on a popular nz mb with 3 or 4 current jw who are having a hard time accepting that the quotes from their latest pamphlets on evolution, among others are taken out of context, its got to the point where the only answer they are willing to give is to take it up with borg central.. if i actually physically mailed them a letter with a large portion of attached documents, would i get an actual response, photocopies of articles, or filed under wicked slave?.
Welcome Archimendes.
You call them, they tell you to go f#@k yourself in the kindest "christian" way possible. Well not literally, but the result is the same...
i would appreciate your help trying to explain to a jw, how someone could just read a bible on their own and understand what it is all about.
without an organization.. also, how could nonchristians or pagans etc find out about christ without someone to teach them?
after 45 years of using the bible, it is easy for me to say to jesus question "who will you go away to?
Yan Bibiyan - (love to know the roots of your avatar)
Well, Clarity, it is a statue of Yan Bibiyan and his friend the little devil Fiut (Fiut is standing up). Yan Bibiyan is a fictional character of a children's novel, where he befriends the little devil Fiut and Fiut flies him to the Moon. It is worth noting that the little devil does not equal Satan the devil; it is an expression for a mischevious character.
I may have listened in turn to the little mischevious devil sitting on my left shoulder and started researching the truth about "The Truth"....although my mischevious devil is yet to fly me to the Moon...
Sorry if it was boring or not what you expected...
It's getting that time of year again...we should know in a few more weeks.
Well, anyone wanna wager?
i would appreciate your help trying to explain to a jw, how someone could just read a bible on their own and understand what it is all about.
without an organization.. also, how could nonchristians or pagans etc find out about christ without someone to teach them?
after 45 years of using the bible, it is easy for me to say to jesus question "who will you go away to?
Carla,
Even the badly botched up NWT translation (below) is hard to interpret as: "You need the Watchtower and magazines to teach you"
1 John 2:27 "And as for YOU, the anointing that YOU received from him remains in YOU, and YOU do not need anyone to be teaching YOU; but, as the anointing from him is teaching YOU about all things, and is true and is no lie, and just as it has taught YOU, remain in union with him. "
Clarity, ask a JW to read this to you from THEIR Bible and then explain it. If they try to skirt around the "anointed" wording, ask if the Anointed can just read the Bible.
i would appreciate your help trying to explain to a jw, how someone could just read a bible on their own and understand what it is all about.
without an organization.. also, how could nonchristians or pagans etc find out about christ without someone to teach them?
after 45 years of using the bible, it is easy for me to say to jesus question "who will you go away to?
JWs claim an unbroken lineage of "True Christians" from 33CE onward ending with them in modern times.
Soooo, how did "True Christians" prior to Russell became such WITHOUT the aid of Watchtowers and junk and obviously with the Bible alone?
the wt claims to be like the original christians of the first century.. if that is true, then it would be obvious to all that they follow the examples given in these two scriptures below:.
acts 2:45 "they sold their property and possessions and shared the money with those in need.".
acts 4:35 "there were no needy persons among them.
I watched the Watchtower Society attempt to REPOSSES A KINGDOM HALL in Kingfisher, Oklahoma when this little congregation got behind on the payments.
JW (no pun intended:-), can you remember specifics?
It would be interesting to pull the court records and add them to our ever growing arsenal of self-inflicted JW stupidity. On a second thought, Oklahoma uses non-judicial foreclosure procedure most of the time, where court is not involved, but it also uses judicial process for expediency, where a regular lawsuit against the defaulting party is filed and there are indeed public court records...
if you've seen my public talk video you might like to watch the watchtower video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keidzmxhliy.
can someone embedd please i dunno how?.
It was painful to watch (because of the memories it brings), but you are spot on - just like with the public talk....
Great work!
awake!
february 2011 page 21. something better than gold wayne qu worked as an environmental scientist for the academy of sciences in china.
to advance his career, he and his wife, sue, went to europe in the 1990's, where wayne pursued higher education.
I call bullshit. No person with advanced degree in molecular biology would read just one rag published by some highschool dropouts and simply say "There must be a creator"
Sorry, try again you morons....
the first example shown is one of the older versions of the blood card that jehovah's witnesses (jw) carried.
you will note its clear and uncompromising statement about the use of blood.
it says specifically "i demand that blood, in any way, shape or form, is not to be fed into my body...".
Jehovah gives the Writing ..ahem... Legal Department special knowledge regarding which "fractions" of blood are a "conscience matter".
i have wondered lately, why there is soooo much controvery in the 'pronunciation' or spelling of god's name jehovah.
to my knowledge, i haven't heard of any 'question' on jesus christs name, meaning or spelling.
why if he's the almighty god, is there a question to his name meaning and spelling, and not his son's?.
OBVES says :"...wtrk when pronounced only give a sound wtorek !"
Nope, wtrk sounds like wUtIOUrEAUk. Prove me wrong!